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While top representatives from each country...
were convening at the UN to discuss global peace-keeping and security,
despite the lack of any official recognition,
the self-appointed G's from around the world...
are convening for the peace-keeping...
and security of global youths,
hence the Non-Summit Meeting.
We shall begin the session.
I'm the Chairman of Non Summit Meeting, Jun Hyun-moo.
I'm Secretary General Yoo Se-yoon.
I'm Chairman Sung Si-kyung.
We are Junyoosung!
(Welcome representatives.)
We will cover each representative's issues...
and share diverse opinions.
We discuss all global issues by saying yes or no.
"Agree or Disagree, What is So Important?"
Nice.
(Agree or Disagree, What is So Important?)
We have an issue from Alex from Switzerland.
Due to the rise of instability in Europe,
Switzerland is planning to expand its military force.
It's planning to expand the draft to women.
It's trying to promote the plan legally.
What does the representatives think about the plan?
I lay this issue to the Non Summit Meeting.
Due to terrorist attacks and refugee issues,
the international situation has gotten dire.
Alberto, what do you think?
- Is there any other countries thinking the same way? - Yes.
Even Austria and Denmark is discussing such plans.
Norway, starting this year...
will mandate military service...
for both men and women, legally.
I heard the news.
What's interesting about it is that...
it will apply not only to women,
but foreigners as well once it gets implemented.
We're thinking about it.
So if we lived in Switzerland,
we would have to serve in the military.
Why does Switzerland...
think that there's shortage of military personnel?
Because there's not going to be any war in that country.
Who will go to war with Switzerland?
A scenario was made in 2013.
It's about a possible hypothetical war with France.
- They planned war games against a French invasion. - Right.
(Sigh of relief)
Swiss people don't really worry about...
war breaking out.
But the older generation believe that...
it's important to have a national defense.
Also, mandatory military duty is a long tradition.
That's why we do it in Switzerland.
There was a vote in Switzerland,
regarding conscription.
Whether they should get rid of it or not.
When the Swiss people voted on the issues,
they voted to keep conscription.
They voted not only once,
- but they voted 3 times. - Did all 3 yield the same result?
All three results yielded to keep the conscription.
So they kept conscription? I see.
Let's check the other representatives' opinions.
In Switzerland where there's shortage of military force,
should it promote expanding the draft to include women or not?
Who disagrees with expanding the draft to include women?
Please, press the button. Counting. 1, 2, 3.
Lucky, Nic, Alberto, Christian, and Alex disagrees.
If you think about it,
the methods of war have changed a lot.
Some people predict...
The Third World War will be a cyber war.
So soldiers may not be needed as much.
So I think...
women will have the right to choose.
And men as well.
- I think that's the best. - When cyber warfare breaks out,
how do you defend against that?
How would I defend against it? Well, that's...
You'd have to defend yourself digitally.
(You have to defend yourself digitally in cyber warfare.)
What he is saying is that the number of soldiers will be irrelevant.
What Christian had said,
is that there's no need to draft more people...
that's why he disagrees.
But the issue here is sexual discrimination.
Having men mandated to serve in the military...
is obviously sexual discrimination.
That includes religious, racial and...
national discrimination. If they didn't exist,
I think war wouldn't exist any longer.
So I think it's good...
to have women go through the same military training as men.
- That's because equality... - Even in the workplace...
- everyone does the same work, right? - I agree, but...
men are physically stronger than women.
You are right. That's a fact.
Some women are stronger than men.
But in general, they are not the same.
So if women get the same training,
they will suffer more.
That can bring bigger sexual discrimination.
Male soldiers might feel...
superior to female soldiers and put them down.
If men are too weak to serve in the military,
they have other roles different than stronger men.
That should be the same case for women.
If you look at the US military system,
there are many women roles in the military.
So women soldiers in US...
were not allowed to engage in direct combat.
That was the situation.
- Isn't that sexual discrimination? - Yes, it is.
That's sexual discrimination.
- That's discrimination. - However, recently...
they changed the rule so that women can engage just the same as men.
In Pakistan, there's medical unit in the military.
Most of the members are women.
You don't have to always fight...
to be part of the military. There are many roles.
Women can take on other roles.
- Roles that are suitable for women. - Yes.
I've got something to say.
You may speak.
I was a bit shocked.
Can't women...
kill other people? Is that what you believe?
- They can. - Why would you think that?
- They surely can. - Then why do women...
stay in their country...
- while men go off... - As soldiers...
To fight?
It was mentioned that it was sexual discrimination against men.
Some male chauvinists can...
use this as an excuse to argue.
They might think that...
since men are obligated to serve in the military,
they deserve higher positions in society.
They might think that way.
So if women serve in the military too,
such men can't use that as an excuse any more.
I think achieving gender equality...
is unrealistic.
In reality, gender equality...
is a grave issue.
So that should be resolved first.
Then, we can talk about female conscription.
Expanding draft to women should be discussed as well.
- We should be clear. - Also...
There are enough problems...
women face in society as it is.
So there's need to reduce such inconveniences for women.
Having female soldiers to fight in combats...
may seem admirable.
- But it should never be coerced. - Leave it as a choice, right?
So you are saying to not legally coerce women.
- Okay, Guillaume... - But, it's okay...
- to coerce men. - So Guillaume disagrees.
You should just think of it as being considerate to women.
They go through the pain of child labor.
That's something as big as serving in military.
Most men also don't do house chores.
Then...
is that considered a mercy for men?
It's something to consider.
Hold on.
Lucky, men need to do house chores as well.
You need to do the dishes and work together.
- Raise the child together as well. - I know.
Maybe you've lived in Korea...
for too long. That's why you might say that.
I think it's the same in India.
- I do the dishes and clean the house. - In Germany, the men...
are good at house chores very well.
My dad's wife...
never does the cooking. My dad does all the cooking.
You come from a good family Nic.
- Nic comes from a good family. - A good family.
(It's been revealed that Nic's from a good family.)
In order to resolve gender inequality,
why's it necessary to mandate it?
In 2016,
- I think mandatory military duty should disappear. - Even in Korea?
There was a debate in Italy...
on whether a country could coerce...
- a person to kill another person. - That's a logical debate.
Because of that conscription has disappeared in Italy.
That's actually...
a debate in USA, too.
There's a thing called conscientious objector.
You can deny military duty due to religious beliefs.
Then you don't have to serve.
- However, when a country is at war... - You must.
what can you do when there's shortage of soldiers?
If you didn't want to go to the military,
you'd be placed in jail.
But now, if you don't want to,
then you can choose an alternative service.
For example, you can work in the farm.
Or work for environmental maintenance programs.
- There are such services. - For the country?
- Yes. - My thoughts are similar to Alberto's.
I don't agree with military duty based on looks.
- Looks? - Looks?
What do you mean looks?
- He meant to say obligation. - Obligation.
How can you go to the army based on looks?
(Crying in laughter)
In Pakistan, you go to the military based on looks.
- What? - They do based on looks.
What I mean is that you can't go if you are too short.
I see.
See? I was right.
(I was right after all.)
Guillaume.
- You don't agree with mandated draft? - Yes.
I disagree with that.
I wish to get rid of the military in Switzerland.
- I think it's unnecessary. - Switzerland doesn't need it.
Also...
Why do you think it's unnecessary?
- There's no need for war. - We talked about it before.
I can't understand.
- I don't get it either. - Why does Switzerland feel so safe?
- I don't understand it. - You can't be caught in lull.
Swiss banks holds most of the money from all over the world.
Someone could attack them one day.
What will you do then?
That's bank robbery.
- Still. - Other country will protect them.
- I know. - That would spark an outrage.
The NATO won't just sit around.
- They are all in Switzerland. - Switzerland had...
played war game scenarios with France in mind.
So it's evident that people have such thoughts in their mind.
You need a military, but the problem is,
should people be mandated to go to the military?
Or should the country have an official army?
- It's like this... - Well...
It might be different in Korea but in Europe...
the country...
pays for and trains professional soldiers. I think that's the right way to do it.
They are in the end, public servants.
I agree. Pakistan is like that too.
But Switzerland is right next to France.
France is not such a threatening country.
I'm not saying that France is.
- France is not a threatening country. - Of course.
As you all know,
there are constant terrorist attacks in France.
France is a big country.
That's why it's a big target for terrorist attacks.
From Switzerland's perspective, it's very scary.
That's why they feel they need to expand their military force.
So Switzerland is trying to be prepared.
- It's good to prepare for it. - That's why.
- Thank you for that. - If Switzerland is scared,
don't you think it would scare Germany as well?
We got rid of conscription too.
Since 1956,
until 2011 we had military conscription as well.
So, service was mandatory there, until five years ago?
If it was abolished an extra year later, I would've had to go myself.
My birth year was the first to reap the benefits.
That's why you look so happy.
I've heard of the first college admissions generation, but...
a draft-lifted generation?
- But it hasn't gone away, though? - You're right.
What's the system for military service in Germany?
We have some career soldiers.
But, if I had to mention something special,
Germany can't initiate a war.
It's purely for defense.
There's no way we can attack another country.
- That's with everyone, though. - That's not true.
The US likes to...
attack anyone they want.
- It's because... - Why are you bringing the US into this?
(Why are you dragging us into this?)
Canada has only one border.
We also have the the neighboring superpower in the US.
Their yearly national defense budget is around 600 billion dollars.
They spend about 40 times more than us. - That's USA.
There's no way we can fight them.
That's the reason why we don't have mandatory service.
I've heard this before.
All of the tanks in Canada...
amount to about 1 or 2, it doesn't match their land size.
- What are you saying? - That can't be true.
The Canadian army? That has to be false.
Do you have a lot of Canadian soldiers?
We spend about 16 billion dollars on our defense.
(That's cute.)
What kind of country only has one tank?
So one Canadian tank costs eight billion?
Two tanks make 16 billion, they must be really nice.
I didn't know, but when I was watching a documentary on the Invasion of Normandy...
it was an invasion from the Allied forces, composed of the British and the US.
I also saw the Canadians spearheading the center.
There were a lot of Canadian soldiers at the operation.
They were around, without raising too many flags.
- They were actually invisible. - You guys have a sizable military force, right?
We do.
"We do."
(Breaking News, Canada does have a military.)
In France's case,
we did have conscription in the past but it was abolished.
But now, we're actually debating, whether that was the right decision.
It's because, when we had conscription,
the people from different classes,
and from different backgrounds,
mixed and mingled with average French people.
The military offered a place to socialize.
But now, it's dead and gone.
So, it's a factor to consider, when thinking about our unity.
You're saying, it facilitates a unified patriotism with everyone.
- They get friendlier. - It actually binds people together.
It can really be beneficial.
Frankly, in the US, the military is a career.
People who want to join can join.
It's available to both men and women.
While facing World War I,
the general populace didn't really have a lot of opportunities.
War offered a way of bettering their life at home.
At that time, we started conscripting.
We sent over so many soldiers, back then.
Technically, I'd need to register myself to the system.
They just require registrations when we turn 19.
It actually scares me. My dad...
said, when I turned 18, I needed to...
- put myself into the system. - You needed to register.
But he said not to worry because there was no conscription after the 1970's.
It was just a fail-safe measure.
However, it was only for men, until recently.
As of this year, they made it mandatory for women to register.
They have to be put into the system, as well.
Only for emergencies?
If there's a big war in the future,
they can tell us to fight.
That's something, because you can't even drink at 19.
The US doesn't allow that, but...
they think it's an appropriate age for people to shoot guns?
I just don't think that's logical. You're an adult,
you should be allowed to drink.
No, you're absolutely right.
We've been arguing the same thing for ages in the US.
Some things like, why can't we vote, when we can hold guns?
- There were debates about the voting system. - That's difficult.
If a Mexican male turns 18, they draw a ball.
- A ball? - Yes.
There are two colors, black and white.
Whichever one you draw,
sends you to, or keeps you from service.
(Careful)
The black is for exemption...
and white for enlisting.
- How's that possible? - The chances are...
not at 50 percent, it's 60 to 40.
The 60 percent is for the black, the exemption.
(The black draw is at 60 percent.)
What'd happen if you're the unluckiest guy?
If you're unlucky, you're taking the white.
- It's at 60 to 40? - If you end up going,
- Christian, what did you pick? - I got black.
Wow!
How did it feel? Didn't you have friends there?
- Yes, all of them were there. - Do they scream when you're drawing?
I couldn't really start clapping after drawing the exemption.
(He couldn't show his happiness.)
The guy I didn't like, ended up with the white.
(Happy inside)
- Can you switch the balls? - What?
If I wanted to get enlisted,
but I ended up drawing the black one.
Is it possible to switch with someone?
I really don't think so.
- Probably not. - I don't think so.
If you end up in the Mexican army,
it's only for six months.
- Also, it's only on Saturdays. - What?
I said, it's only on Saturdays.
- You only go to the army on Saturdays? - That's right.
- What? - No, it's really true.
- What kind of an army is that? - It's like sports.
Like the Swiss, we're just not worried about war.
What do you guys do on those Saturdays?
- Probably play with the US. - We just end up cleaning.
You don't get a proper training regimen?
There are some who do.
But we just have too many people.
Wow, can you imagine how hard it is, to go only on Saturdays for six months?
(They even have to clean for 26 whole days!)
It's such a scary thought!
They have to go every single Saturday.
I think it'd be the end of my world, if I drew white.
(Embarrassed)
Nic just said, that it's like coming to shoot this show every week.
You're saying it's the same.
(Army equals recording.)
Do you think this is like the army? Is that how you felt?
I'm just saying, they have similar hours.
- Similar hours. - It's on Saturdays!
He's saying, it feels that way.
It's really different for us in Pakistan.
We actually can't even go if you wanted to.
It's that difficult.
It's harder to get into the military,
then getting an international scholarship.
Frankly, I wanted to go, too.
So, I went to a military boarding school.
I took the exam and I failed.
Why did you want to go?
The soldier is the best job, there.
They have the best salary?
Yes, because you get commissioned as an officer.
I've never heard a foreigner use that title in Korean.
- It's a difficult word. - I'm actually curious.
I understand, that it's hard to reach that level.
But when we talk about being regular soldiers,
- is it hard to assume those roles? - That's also difficult.
We have so many people.
Naturally, we have a lot of applicants.
It's overflowing, really.
- On the other hand, women... - Do soldiers marry well?
like men, who are soldiers.
I actually really hate that fact.
That's why so many of you want to go into the military.
My first girlfriend...
ended up marrying a soldier.
(Sympathetic)
- That's like the music video! - That's sad!
(The wedding was clad in camouflage.)
That's unbelievable.
That's just sad.
That's why he's clapping his hands and singing at home.
- He's singing Kim Bum-soo's songs. - That's true.
If we're talking about benefits, isn't the US the best?
I think so, when you complete your service with our military,
they clear your tuition debt.
It's the law to facilitate a college education for the soldiers.
I get envious of the fact, that...
the American citizens have a way of admiring their soldiers.
In fact, we actually walk up to a random soldier,
at a station or something and greet them.
We say, "Thank you for serving our country".
- It's normal, though we should be saying it more. - That's really nice of them.
Now, when we think of protecting our country,
there will be unending debates regarding the role of women.
It's something to keep our undeterred focus.
The next is from Italy.
This is also going to be quite sensitive.
Recently, a female politician from Italy,
announced her disdain for Korea's dog meat soup culture.
She wants to push for a boycott of the Pyeongchang Olympics.
She would seek support in the EU to do so, if Korea doesn't discontinue it.
So, I wanted to ask you about dog meat soup...
and the prospects of a potential boycott of the Pyeongchang Olympics.
I'm curious to know what you think of this issue.
Recently, even in England,
there are some movements to discontinue the dog-meat trade in Korea.
There were over 100,000 signatures on the petition.
In fact, at the Gwanghwamun plaza,
you can see an English woman, protesting that very issue.
Now, let's discuss the Italian politician's Pyeongchang Olympics boycott.
Let's take a vote, yes or no.
What are your opinions?
In 1, 2, 3! Please press the button.
The prospect of catching and trading dog meat...
is controversial.
(It's 1 person for boycotting and 8 against)
One person stands alone.
Aurélien, you're the only one.
You're remind me of Brigitte Bardot!
("Only savages eat dog meat", Brigitte Bardot.)
I mean...
The fact is,
I didn't really agree fully with it.
I just thought, that if some countries...
would like to boycott the event. Just let them.
- They can boycott if they want to. - Yes.
However, I don't condone this reasoning for the boycott.
I wouldn't do it.
I'd boycott it for having curling.
- "Curling"? - Curling's boring!
(Curling is so boring.)
(What's he saying, now?)
What are you saying?
Why is it an Olympic sport?
- Curling is... - There are so many people that like it!
- I think it should be gone! - It's...
- the sport where you brush to go further, right? - It goes further.
You can also control the directions.
It's rather interesting.
They also hit the others' stone, on purpose, right?
Right, they do it to knock them out-of-bounds.
- It requires a lot of thinking. - It sounds fun, already!
(It already sounds fun.)
Wait, did any of you actually try it?
- Me. - Alex, you've eaten it?
- Have you eaten it Alex? - Just once, actually.
(Alex, Guillaume, Mark, Alberto, Lucky)
- So, we have Guilaume, too. - When I was going to school,
I went to go eat it with a Korean-American.
There were only older men in the restaurant.
While we were eating it, a man came by...
and said, he's never seen foreigners eating it.
He expressed his gratitude.
I don't know who this Italian politician is.
But, the reason why Koreans eat bath houses...
- Dog meat soup! - You don't eat bath houses.
They sound the same!
How could all those people...
Dog meat soup.
(A bath house?)
- Hangover soup. - Anyway, we have to respect the reason.
Maybe she's being hypocritical.
You can't ignore something based on cultural differences.
- That's what I think. - This person is actually...
called, Michela Vittoria Brambilla.
She's originally a Miss Italy.
She's an older lady now, but back then...
she was somewhat pretty.
- Somewhat pretty? - Somewhat.
She's not my type.
Alberto's critical perspective.
She was somewhat pretty.
Prime Minister Berlusconi hired several...
beautiful women as members of the Italian Parliament and various positions.
Michela was hired as...
- Minister of Tourism. - He selected her.
Fortunately, Berlusconi's term has ended.
So Michela's popularity declined.
In my personal opinion,
I think she's trying to gain popularity...
by being active in animal rights.
- I see. - I actually...
tried it out of curiosity too.
Whether it's beef or dog meat,
I don't think there's any problem.
But how the animals are raised...
and killed is important.
I think morally eating meat is all the same.
In the past, it was consumed a lot in Korea.
But now, many people don't eat it is as much.
Whenever I visit India,
my friends make fun of me.
Saying that I eat dog in Korea.
- That's right. Me too. - People who don't know...
just soak in whatever they...
watch in the news and exaggerate it.
Just like that, other countries think that Indians...
eat curry every day in India.
- There are people who think that way. - That's because...
eating dog meat is easy to make the headline in the news.
- That's it. - What the politicians should pay attention...
to is something more serious.
For example, kidnapping and child abuse.
They don't pay attention to that and they would rather focus on dog meat soup.
When a politician...
is against animal abuse,
I think it's a good idea.
But why is it...
necessary to boycott the Olympics?
I believe such things...
will resolve itself as time goes on.
As far as I'm concerned, she's never been to Korea.
She probably doesn't understand any Asian cultures.
I think she's an incompetent politician.
I'm embarrassed of it and I'd like to apologize for this.
(I'm so embarrassed, I apologize.)
I agree with Alberto.
She's probably never visited Korea.
It seems like she just wants popularity.
Just like Trump in USA.
She wants to create an issue.
I think that's why she's doing it.
I understand.
Does your country...
have a culinary culture that's looked down upon by others?
Italy's been criticized because of horse meat.
Horse meat is delicious.
It's the most expensive meat in Italy.
But people who like horses...
criticized us for eating it.
A few years ago in Europe,
there was a controversy regarding horse meat.
It was a big deal in England.
But in Switzerland, it was no big deal. It was just meat.
Kind of like hamburgers.
It was the same in Germany too. It's not a big deal.
Many people eat horse meat.
Snail, frog, and rabbit meat.
Many Italians enjoy meat like that.
In France, there is foie gras.
- Foie gras. - Other countries...
- have criticized us about it. - That's actually animal abuse.
- So I don't eat it. - You are purposefully enlarging the liver, right?
- Yes. The way they do it is cruel. - You really don't eat it?
They get a metal funnel.
- And feed it forcefully. - Even in France...
They eat a lot, right?
No.
- They do. - It's controversial.
(There's a big debate about foie gras in France.)
What's the definition of animal abuse?
That's totally animal abuse.
Animal rights is a big movement these days.
So I was wondering...
what if chickens, pigs,
- and cows... - I know.
could...
hear what we are saying,
I can just imagine how lonely they must feel.
Why are you getting emotional all of sudden?
They must think, how come we don't...
- care for them. - He's in puberty.
I don't know.
If you raise animals...
in cruel ways and kill them in such ways,
- I think it's animal abuse. - The standards may vary.
But I think foie gras is too inhumane.
I think it's too cruel.
I've watched in TV how they kill chickens.
They hang the chickens like machine pieces.
At first, they drown them.
Isn't that cruel?
That can be considered as animal abuse.
Everything we consume seem to be done in that way.
There are many vegans in USA.
They don't even eat eggs or drink milk.
Many people think that they are doing it for health reasons.
But instead,
- they do so to avoid animal abuse. - That's right.
They are driven by the beliefs.
More than 50 percent of the Indian population is vegan.
So people think Indians don't eat meat.
But there are special dishes in India...
such as goat's brain.
They make curry out of it.
It also sounds beautiful. Brain curry.
- Brain curry. - Brain curry.
It looks like tofu.
It's also delicious. You can dip bread into it.
People eat grasshoppers in Mexico.
- Grasshoppers? - They also eat it in China.
- Even in Korea too. - Not so much now.
Grasshoppers live in naturally clean environments.
- You can find it in Gangwon Province. - We think it's clean.
Because it keeps jumping around.
I know.
- It only lives in clean environments. - It's clean...
because it jumps?
- It has lot of proteins. - Healthy grasshoppers.
In Mexico, it had been considered as food since 3,000 years ago.
It's a traditional food in Mexico.
You can find them in convenience stores.
There are also grasshopper tacos.
(Grasshopper taco)
- Grasshopper taco? - Grasshopper taco.
That sounds good.
I used love grasshoppers.
When I was young, I used to play with it since it jumps a lot.
I used to like it a lot when it jumped.
Back then when I was young.
You mean enjoying eating them?
- No, not eating them. - You would stand in front of it like this.
Whenever it jumped out everywhere...
I would follow and chase it.
I have good memories with them. But I feel sad when you said you eat it.
You've never tried grasshoppers?
No.
In Canada there's a dish I think no one can eat in here.
- What is it? - It's called a prairie oyster.
There's an oyster you can grow in your room.
It's actually bull's testicles.
It's fried bull's testicles.
That's called a prairie oyster?
Wait, did you say fried bull's testicles?
- Why would you call it oyster when it's fried? - It must be very juicy.
(Disgusted)
- It's nutritious. - How big is it?
- Why do you want to know the size? - I've never tried.
I wanted to know the serving size.
It's huge.
(Laughing)
- It's huge? - Do they serve it in pairs?
One is enough to fill you up.
- I'm not sure. - One's enough?
If you eat two, does it mean you are a glutton?
Have you ever had any...
shocking experiences regarding foreign dishes?
It can be in Korea or anywhere else.
For me it's pupa.
- Pupa. - Pupa soup.
- I've never tried the soup. - They fill it up in a cup.
- It's very delicious. - I hate the smell.
The smell is too much.
The smell's too strong.
I can eat everything in Korea,
- except pupa. - Me too.
- Really? - Who can't eat pupa?
(So, 2 people can eat it and 7 cannot.)
- Some can eat it. - It's really good.
It's the best thing to eat after playing soccer on a Sunday morning.
For those who can't eat them, is it because of the smell or the visual?
- Both. - Both.
It's so small.
I feel sad.
- As for me... - This is sad.
The smell is so pungent that...
if somebody is selling them on the street,
- I rush past it. - Do you turn around?
- That's right. - I rush past it.
What's shocking about Korean food was that...
there is soup with blood in it.
- Blood-pudding haejangguk. - Blood-pudding haejangguk.
It's the best.
What do you mean?
- I was shocked. - It's good.
It can be shocking definitely.
- It's blood. - People eat blood in Italy.
It's disgusting. I know it's food for hangover.
When I was hungover, my friend asked me to eat it with him.
When I saw it.
(Horrified)
I really like it.
I couldn't eat at first too.
Don't people in Germany eat blood sausages?
- Yes. - Like sundae.
Yes. There are people like that.
But I don't eat them.
- I was surprised by that. - I don't like sausages.
How can you not like sausages as a German?
There are Koreans who don't like kimchi.
(That's right.)
It's rare.
When you go to villages near the sea,
elderly ladies will serve big live prawns.
- You mean odori ebi? - They skin them.
They serve it to you. They are still alive.
I couldn't eat it at first, but after getting drunk a little,
I tried it. It was so delicious.
Shrimp is easy to eat.
Have you tried raw octopus?
I really like it.
But when I first tried it, I thought I was going to die.
- Why? - You were putting a live thing into your mouth.
- Also when it gets stuck in your throat. - That's dangerous.
When people watched the film "Old Boy",
were Europeans really shocked?
I heard that scene was really shocking to them.
When Choi Min-sik was eating it?
That's only Choi Min-sik though.
- Who eats raw octopus like that? - That's right.
He even passes out too.
Isn't Choi Min-sik vegan?
- Maybe. - He likes...
to drink soju.
He has eaten meat with me before.
(Choi Min-sik likes meat and soju both.)
When foreigners...
come to Korea for the first time,
no one ever likes kimchi and doenjang at the start.
- That's correct. - You must try it a few times before.
- It tastes different to them. - You have to get used to it first.
Once you get used to the taste, it's good.
When I went to Thailand,
I've ate beetles.
I've had scorpions.
- And tarantulas. - Really?
- It was this big. - Spider?
At first, before I tried it,
I thought it was disgusting.
But after you eat it,
you understand why people eat them.
- Is it tasty? - It was really delicious.
- Tarantula was? - It's very expensive.
It tasted like soft crab.
- It was really good. - Have you tried snake?
Yes. I've tried snake and donkey meat in China.
It's really delicious.
When I was in graduate school in Korea,
I had a Chinese roommate.
Our room was hot and full of the sounds of cicadas.
One cicada fell to the ground.
My Chinese roommate saw that.
And he said, that looks delicious.
(That looks delicious.)
Really?
- Do they eat cicadas in China? - They eat insects.
They fry them.
I haven't tried it but...
there's a thing called balut in the Philippines.
It's called balut. Do you know it?
- It looks like an original egg on the outside. - I know it.
- But inside... - I've seen that before.
It actually has an 18-day-old duck embryo inside.
- I saw that in Cambodia. - That's right.
There's an Italian dish called the casu marzu.
- Have you heard of it? - I know it.
This cheese has some bugs inside.
It also contains some mosquito wastes. It's just rotten cheese.
In Mexico, don't you have tequila...
that has a scorpion inside?
- Tequila with scorpions? - What's that about?
A long time ago, when we were producing it,
they found out, that it tastes better with it inside.
We discovered that.
- You don't eat the bug, right? - We don't eat it.
The bug stays inside the bottle.
- So it's for the flavor. - My friend...
ate it, saying that it's the best part.
Really?
Aren't there Korean liquors with snakes in them?
- Snake wine. - Aren't there also some in China?
I thought they had alcohol with unusual ingredients. It's expensive, too.
There's something called rat wine in China.
- It actually has a rat inside. - A rat wine?
- You're right. - What?
- It's for real. - Wow.
The wine has some rats inside of it.
It's called rat wine.
Mind the pronunciation.
It's not red wine, but rat wine.
It sounds the same!
It seems like, there are so many diverse foods around the world.
So, before we judge another's culture,
we should learn to respect them, instead.
We'll continue with "What is So Important?" next week.
Let's meet our guest representative.
Instead of entertainment, when's the album coming out?
What?
Who are you talking to?
YG Entertainment's Daesung said, "Only the graduation album was on time".
She heard him say this and fell in love with entertainment shows.
It's Sandara Park!
(110th Non Summit Meeting guest, Sandara Park)
(Sandara Park, Korean Musician, media celebrity)
Please introduce yourself in your native tongue.
These days, I'm referred to as an old bird of K-pop.
My group, 2NE1, had been around for eight years.
I'm the sweet vocalist, Sandara Park. It's nice to meet you.
(Nice to meet you.)
- You were really shy on TV, before. - Yes.
You had a phobia for these type of shows, right?
I actually still have it.
But recently, I was on the show, "Sugar Man".
It helped me overcome some of that.
I feel more comfortable. I also felt, what I had to offer was finally coming out...
then the show got canceled.
Our CEO, Mr. Yang...
was saying, "You look brighter because you're hanging out with Yu Jae-seok".
It was the first time he ever complimented me.
Why do all of you, in the YG label, do impressions of Yang Hyun-suk?
Is it just because it's easy?
From an objective point of view, that sounded like Lee Soo-man.
It sounds about the same.
Is that so?
- Didn't you live in the Philippines for a while? - Yes.
- You went there when you were in the fourth grade? - Yes.
- How long did you live there? - I was there until my early 20's.
So, it was basically, all of my adolescence. I started to...
get into entertainment industry there,
then I came over to YG Entertainment as a trainee.
I gave up my life there to do this.
Were you popular over there?
I wasn't just popular,
they named a syndrome after me.
(Sandara, the cause of a syndrome)
(The then-syndrome-causing Sandara park.jpg)
Do you know how to speak Tagalog?
I can speak it more comfortably than Korean.
- Really? - Really?
Can you introduce yourself in Tagalog?
- It's a simple introduction. - That's so crazy.
She just threw up her arms.
"Mabuhay" is usually said...
when you welcome somebody, like aloha.
- Do you miss the Philippines? - What?
- Do you miss it there? - Yes, I miss it, but...
- lately... - I miss it
That's the name of your song, right? Or was it lyrics?
- Right, that's the title. - "I miss it".
(Proud)
You seem to be comfortable with 2NE1's songs?
I actually like their songs, a lot.
It's the first time I've seen you sing without your chin like this.
(I'm the best there is)
- Do you have to do that? - The notes are high.
- The song is a little high. - I can sing high-note songs.
(He's giving his chin no rest.)
Summit, summit, non-summit
(Trademarked chin-up singing technique)
Yes, that's right.
Come back home
Can you sing with your chin at a normal level?
Just do it, looking straight ahead.
Don't twist your head.
(Come back home)
- Drop your chin, over here. - This part here...
Someone has to brace it, I guess.
Let's go, start!
(Come back home)
(His source of energy is from his chin lifting.)
Now, let's start the 110th Non Summit Meeting.
As usual, the guest has brought...
her issue with her today.
People say, that I'm usually in my own little fantasy world.
So, I'm here to bring this issue into light.
I'm usually delving in unrealistic things, so I'm losing my grip on reality.
Am I abnormal?
We did hear, that you were a bit strange.
- Is she abnormal? - That's right.
Are you saying, you think differently from others?
I'm like Peter Pan,
trying to live with a kid's heart.
It's just like in the drama,
I dream about falling in love at first sight.
For example, I might...
escape the city to rest in the country.
- Then I'd end up at a beach. - That's good.
- You already thought about this. - This is big.
I'd find this shabby resort...
- A shabby resort. - and walk down the beach, alone.
I'd want to put my feet into the water.
Then, some guy would be like, "What is she doing?".
"Is she trying to kill herself?", then come running, trying to stop me.
You were just putting your feet in the water though?
Why would he say all that?
- He'd say, "What are you doing here?" - Like this,
"What are you doing here?"
"If you step on urchins, it's going to hurt!"
That's not what I was thinking.
He just crushed everything.
Anyway, as I make eye contact with these gentle eyes...
(Epiphany)
I always dream of things like that.
It's kind of like "Before Sunrise", right?
- Like a love story at a vacation stay. - That never happens.
They always have someone sitting next to you on the train.
"What you doing here?"
"Don't touch the abalone!"
"It's mine!"
(You can't stop him.)
You're crushing it, hard.
Who's the most realistic out of your friends?
CL has to be that.
Of course, she's the leader. But she's also cool-headed and smart.
She gives really good advice.
Sandara Park's issue,
"I'm usually delving in unrealistic things, so I'm losing my grip on reality".
Let's discuss if she's indeed abnormal.
(The first vote)
Let's get some opinions from our representatives.
Please vote, yes or no.
In 1, 2, 3. Please press it.
(It's 5 votes for normal and 5 for abnormal.)
I've actually come up with a list as to why she's abnormal.
The reason why she's unrealistic, is...
first, she's into drama characters.
They always have the best-looking people for that.
Also, they're excellent actors.
It's impossible to think, that's a real person.
It's been carefully crafted.
They've got makeup,
photo shopping and a stylist.
You're saying, it's all made-up.
Yes, even the lighting. They're so different in real life!
If you happen to fall for them,
how would it be possible to meet a real person?
I think, if people are thinking too realistically,
there can be no room for improvements.
- It halts progress. - You're saying, it's okay to live in a dream.
You have to have a dream, to fuel effort.
- In Sandara's case, - What happens when you see a celebrity?
she dreamed of being a singer...
ever since she was little.
Then, she debuted in the Philippines in 2004...
and continued to practice for five more years in Korea.
- Then, she debuted once again. - How do you know this?
Nobody told you that.
- Are you a fan? - I just know it.
(He knows about her career.)
He always knows everything.
- I just love music. - He's just like Lim Jin-mo.
(Almost at Lim Jin-mo's level of knowledge)
Christian said the right thing.
I actually have a quote that I really like.
It's from the actor, Will Smith.
Basically, he's saying, living realistically...
turns into a mediocre life.
It's something like that.
He also had childhood dreams...
of being a singer or an actor.
But people around him were all against it.
Somehow, he behaved unrealistically, to build his life.
I think you should think about it like that.
You have to have a vision and dreams...
to drive and motivate,
to help with development.
I think, that there's some logic behind living unrealistically.
It's nice to have a vision or dreams,
but the dream has to be achievable through effort.
It has to be realistic.
If you end up drowning in fantasy,
it's just like Peter Pan,
or a Korean drama. You believe some prince will...
come and rescue you.
There's no effort for that!
I think, those kind of dreams are unhealthy.
It's actually abnormal.
I'm the opposite, it's normal.
There's something we say in France.
We actually know Com Pannier.
It's a brand.
It's basically saying, it's better to be alone than...
having to stay with the wrong person.
There are some requirements, though.
Can you live a single life forever?
Why are you suddenly asking that?
It's because...
what if the person of her dreams never shows up?
You mean, if they never come.
What if your ideal man doesn't come around?
I've heard that a lot, actually.
"Are you just going to keep putting it off?",
"You're letting your youth slip away", things like that.
I have to start now.
But you're an artist, though.
The role of an artist...
is to fall in love...
and show the masses, a different side.
So, when you're writing your music, you're definitely like that.
That's how new things come out.
It's how your expressions reach us. I think it's attractive.
Gosh!
I'm normal!
You don't have to change your answer.
- You can change it if you want. - You were too easily swayed.
What are some of your country's fantasies...
or some cultural patterns?
If you watch Korean dramas,
there are a lot of Cinderella stories.
- Something resembling a low-class girl meeting... - In the drama.
a rich guy. It's the total opposite in Italy.
- The opposite? - For example, a rich girl...
She has a rich boyfriend.
They were traveling together.
The rich boyfriend had a bad personality.
When they got into an argument,
the girl had left for a walk.
She went to go play tennis but the tennis instructor was really handsome.
- He was off somewhere... - She likes it.
Or when...
a house was under construction,
- the driller had big muscles. - Sinewy muscles.
(A driller with big muscles during construction)
Wearing overalls.
What are you doing here?
Stop it.
- Why would a guy from Italy... - And why Chungcheong Province
Why would he be there?
That was funny.
Or while a woman's driving,
her car breaks down. So she takes it to the body shop.
She finds a mechanic underneath a car working.
He is sweaty as he comes out.
- With a very nice body. - As he is sweating...
he grabs a water bottle.
(Then takes a shower)
They spill it on purpose.
Wash it like this.
- Such things still exist? - No one drinks it properly.
They all pour it.
On their faces.
When you watch Chinese movies,
- they pour the jar of liquor. - Like Jackie Chan.
So they usually fall in love.
But it's an impossible love.
Because parents disapprove of their relationships.
Also there's the rich boyfriend.
It usually ends in a sad ending.
Or the lovers run away and it ends as a happy ending.
That sounds like a fun story.
Mexico is very similar to that.
Mexican movies are crazy. - Man is poor, and...
the woman is rich in the movies.
It's always the same.
The woman gets into trouble.
The man comes from nowhere...
to rescue her from other men and says, "Hey, leave her alone."
"Leave her alone".
- If you don't want to die. - If you don't want to mess with me.
- It always starts like that. - How does the line go in Spanish?
(Leave her alone)
(Unless you want trouble.)
This is how the movie starts.
And the woman falls in love.
It kind of sounded like Lee Dae-geun.
- "Leave her alone". - "Leave her be".
- "Leave her alone". - "Leave her alone".
Aren't there crazy stories in "Telenovela" as well?
- Yes. There are many. - There are so many.
There's always a wedding scene in the end in "Telenovela".
However, there's always...
a twist to the ending.
Someone would barge into the wedding and...
say he disapproves of the wedding.
But now people come to the wedding with guns.
And threaten to stop the wedding.
In recent episode,
a nun was holding a gun in front of the cathedral.
She shoots a person and they found out later...
that the nun was his ex-lover.
The story is crazy.
- That's a real big twist. - She comes in dressed as a nun.
(This is the Mexican drama Christian was talking about.)
(This is your last time you'll ever kiss that man.)
She was in a nun's habit.
Didn't it cause controversy?
It was okay.
Telenovela generates lot of revenue.
In France,
there aren't many fantasy genre.
However, recently there are many dark fantasy genres.
All the protagonists in shows dress...
in dark leather jackets.
They don't shave for about three days.
Cops are involved in drug crimes.
Even in prostitution.
- The cops? - Yes. Even prostitution.
The drama is darker than in reality.
It's kind of surreal.
Since it's too dark.
After hearing this, there's something I'm curious about...
In Switzerland, France, and Italy...
- Don't you guys watch American shows? - We watch it all the time.
I'm asking because...
German shows are...
very boring and there aren't that many.
About 90 percent of the shows are American.
It's played in German language.
There aren't that many German shows.
There are few comedy drama shows.
Even then,
it's only viewed by older ladies.
Younger generation do not watch them.
In France,
we import German shows.
- What? - German shows?
- But it's not fun. - For afternoon shows.
Older ladies still like...
the old German cop stories.
- Like mystery genre. - My grandparents also watch some German shows.
It's very boring.
It's very boring. It's too slow.
Even the colors are weird.
It has greenish color.
- I don't know what show he is talking about. - Because you haven't seen it.
In America, New York image is big in drama shows.
- Because of "Sex and the City". - That's right.
When I came to Korea,
my friends would ask me if people eat brunch every weekend.
But we are just normal people.
We work hard.
There are many fat people.
Even people who can't dress well.
Why do you sound so embarrassed?
It's very different than how it is portrayed in shows.
I've realized that many Koreans...
- watch "Gossip Girl". - That's right.
When I came to Korea,
"Gossip Girl" is about...
a man and woman falling in love.
Their relationship gets intimate.
As the story goes...
they ask for their parents' permissions.
Their parents...
invite the couple...
to their empty house.
But that never happens in real life.
(That never happens.)
People think USA is very liberal, but it's actually conservative.
In Pakistan,
there are many shows regarding family issues.
So Pakistani shows have similar concepts...
rather than having fantasy genre.
A lot of the dramas are about arranged marriages.
- Like unwanted marriages? - Yes.
So when kids are young,
parents decide...
about their future and marriage, too.
But as the children grow they may fall in love with others.
The conflict arises when parents...
demand the arranged marriages happen.
But when you get married like that,
such couples go through difficult times.
So these shows are exposing more of that perspective.
So such marital tradition is dwindling.
- I think Pakistani shows are popular in India. - They are not.
Is that true?
Really?
- You can't lie about this. - They aren't played in India.
(They are arguing again.)
Look.
Pakistani actors and actresses are on Indian movies.
- Right. - That shows how popular they are.
In India,
there are many shows regarding reincarnation.
- Reincarnation? - Yes.
That's very ideal.
Since there's a large population.
India's representative show...
goes on for 2,000 to 3,000 episodes.
Characters are repetitively reincarnated.
For 2,000 episodes?
There's a show...
that has been running since 2008.
- It's on their 2,300th episode. - Really?
The character keeps reincarnating.
People reincarnate.
When it gets overplayed, a twin appears.
- Twin. - Twin.
India's slapping scene is unique.
How is it in Korean shows?
- You get slapped and you get a nose bleed. - Or fall.
In India, it's creative.
Once someone gets slapped,
that scene is repeated about 10 times.
(Slapping scene on repeat)
It gets replayed, right?
Why?
You should check it out yourself.
(1, 2, 3 slaps)
(One slap is not enough)
(Spinning)
When we talk on the phone,
we don't usually repeat the conversation.
"Hyun-moo?"
"He took 200,000 dollars?"
"He flew to Hong Kong?" In Korean shows, they do that.
I never understood...
why characters in dramas...
cannot hear each other even when they are close.
It's the same in the Philippines. Let's say when a couple argues...
and there's a car,
and they are only this much apart.
(Sandara's re-enactment theater)
"What should I do? Was it my fault?"
Then the man says, "I want to apologize."
It's like that in dramas.
I don't understand how they can't hear each other.
Then a friend passes by.
Saying, "you guys should just talk to each other".
Then they get surprised, "when were you here?"
Mexico's similar too. There's no such thing as speaking by yourself.
People don't talk to themselves in Mexico.
For example, a character is lying down saying,
"He will never return back".
But there's no one else in the room.
No one's there to listen.
People think that's very strange.
Can you say that in Spanish?
(He will never return back.)
(Never)
(Christian can act.)
It sounds good in Spanish.
It sounded weird in Korean.
(Nobody's in the room to hear him.)
(You will never go to another person.)
(Unless it's me.)
In Pakistan, it's the opposite. There many scenes when they talk by themselves.
A scene gets frozen...
and the character narrates.
- Freezes all of sudden. - I think I've seen it before.
Therefore I was thinking. Where should I go?
(Freeze and unfreeze)
(So diverse are the drama cultures throughout the world.)
The scene freezes.
Did you guys have any fantasy or did you have stereotypes before coming to Korea?
Just from watching Korean shows or movies?
Korean fantasy.
I had a dark fantasy.
Before I came to Korea,
I watched Korean movies like "Old Boy".
And "Bitter Sweet Life".
The male characters in those movies...
were rough. So I thought Koreans...
were violent people.
- They always beat. - Like Choi Min-sik in "Old Boy"?
Yes. That's it.
- That was popular in Europe. - And they eat raw octopus.
Director Park Chan-wook's films are like that.
Because of Hallyu,
- many people got the wrong ideas about Korea. - Like what?
K-pop fans in Mexico...
think that as long as they go to Apgujeong,
they will be able to meet their idols.
They think they'll be able to see celebrities easily.
But that's not true. I've been there a few times.
You've visited there a few times?
It's hard to find them.
When I read Korean fairy tales,
like the myth of Dangun and "Haenim and Dalnim",
(He's so old-fashioned.)
Whenever I see those stories,
it usually involves tigers.
Like, "if you give me a rice cake, I won't eat you".
So I thought there would be lots of tigers in Korea.
- Many tigers. - I can see why he said that.
But in reality, there were no tigers.
And there's no jungle either.
There used to be many in the mountains.
What about you?
Did you have any Korean fantasy Sandara?
You were here since fourth grade.
It's always summer in the Philippines.
- So I've had fantasy about winter. - Snow.
Yes. Fantasy about snow or wearing mufflers.
There are also many scenes regarding that.
A female character has a muffler on,
while the boyfriend kisses her by pulling on it.
You don't like anything normal, right?
No. It's not like that.
- You like the tug. - Yes.
You are living in a drama fantasy.
Are there any...
misconceptions Koreans or that some your friends have about your country?
When I say I'm from India,
they ask me, why I don't wear a turban.
They think all Indians have turbans on their heads.
But that's only for Sikhs, the religious group.
- Only Sikhs wear them? - Yes.
They don't shave or cut their hair.
So they have long beards and hairs.
It's similar in Mexico.
People think Mexicans live in the dessert,
with a long hat and mustache.
While riding a horse.
But that's not true.
That's because of USA.
USA portrayed that image about Mexico.
- Also the cactus. - The three-armed cactus.
Yes, that's right the three-armed cactus.
That's how Mexico is portrayed...
in American movies. That's why people think that way.
It's not like that anymore.
My Korean friend asked me a question.
He asked how my cactus looked like.
- Your cactus? - Yes. How does it look like, he asked.
I told him that I don't own any cactus.
He didn't understand me.
How does it look like?
Like this.
It's handsome.
When I was going to Korea University, I had a Mongolian roommate.
He was shocked one time.
Because someone...
asked him if he rode his horse to the airport.
That person thought people only ride on horses in Mongolia.
Many do in Mongolia.
People think French are...
fashionable.
They also think French people wear designer labels.
But that's not true.
French people don't really wear luxury brands.
When I was in Japan,
I've come to know what Louis Vuitton was.
- In Japan? - Really?
Yes.
- Like eight years ago. - You didn't know about it in France?
I didn't.
(They don't wear expensive designer clothes.)
People think Germans drive Benz, Audi, BMW.
Many people think most Germans drive such cars.
But in Germany...
the prices are about the same as they are in Korea.
- Really? - Unless they are used.
Many drive cheaper French or Japanese cars.
(Not too happy)
But buses or trucks...
or heavy industries automobiles...
or cars that are not common in Korea were all Benz.
I thought that was exciting.
Such cars are made...
by a company that only makes buses, or a company that only makes trucks.
They are not expensive buses or trucks.
(I see.)
I didn't know.
- What about Italy? - The most common thing I've heard was...
that even homeless are good looking in Italy.
- I think that's true. - That's not true at all.
There are handsome people, but more are ugly.
When people come to visit Italy,
people have high expectations for people from Milan.
It is one of the fashion capitals in the world.
But Italians actually...
say, "Milanesi imbruttiti".
It means ugly Milanese.
Milan is the financial center.
So people are always very busy.
They only wear suits.
They aren't that many fashionistas there.
People in the countryside are more lenient.
And they actually dress better.
Milan is one of the busiest cities.
I was curious.
When you go to France or Italy,
I thought they would all wear trench coats.
Is that true?
- Even in the summer? - Yes.
I thought they all wore trench coats.
So I've bought many of them in preparation to travel there.
(An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.)
They don't.
Korean reporters that visit...
such countries always wear trench coats.
All broadcasting reporters wear that there.
Reporting live from Paris.
It's a strange thing, they always seem to wear that.
From UK's "Daily Mail",
they've checked reality of the spots you must visit before death.
Venice, Italy.
It's romantic to ride the gondola with a lover.
- However, - It is.
But in reality, the waterways are narrow.
You'll actually be trapped in by so many gondolas.
You can't get around much?
There's a place called Piazza San Marco in the city.
If you get on a gondola from there, then the traffic is bad.
That's because there's hundreds of thousands of tourists every day.
- That's right. - It's like Myeong-dong.
Yes. It's the same thing.
Just like the weekend in Myeong-dong.
Leaning Tower of Pisa.
People go there for the same pictures.
(Idea versus reality)
(My home country)
It's all social network service's fault.
Move, let me take a picture.
You've already had your shot.
I really looked forward to visiting Naples.
But I've never seen such a dirty city before.
- That's a big insult. - I see.
There's trash everywhere.
How dirty is it exactly?
I've walked through the underground passage.
- But there were so much trash that I couldn't even enter. - Due to the smell?
Naples is better now.
But back then trash companies...
went bankrupt and had other issues.
So it was messy. It's okay now.
Is that right?
From my personal experience,
I was disappointed when I went to Rome.
Americans have this fantasy about Italy.
We think about the scenes from the movie, "Gladiator".
That's the picture of Rome in our heads.
But the actual Colosseum and other sites in Rome...
were full of graffiti and trash.
If there are such sites, people should take care of it.
It was disappointing to see such old buildings with graffiti.
Foreigners have ideas about Paris.
- They have many fantasies about Paris. - Yes, they do.
(Home of the Eiffel Tower, the Seine River...)
(and Champs-Elysees)
But in reality, there are pickpocketing, dog wastes, and rude people.
- Dog wastes and rude people. - Homeless people.
- Dog wastes. - Dog wastes.
There are homeless people. No air conditioner and...
no bathrooms.
There's something called the "Paris syndrome".
Many tourists have been disappointed.
When I heard this from my Japanese friend,
I thought it was a joke. But it's a real sickness.
Paris syndrome is a real sickness.
Especially to Japanese people.
They had so much expectations about Paris.
But when they get disappointed,
they get real headaches and even get hospitalized.
Some even get into depression.
I really enjoy eating.
So I looked forward to eating French food.
The most delicious food was fondue.
But even that's Switzerland food.
No, it's apple.
- Also... - Apple?
- Also... - Especially from my hometown.
Aren't French dishes globally famous?
I was really disappointed.
You have to search online before.
(Searching online is important.)
- That's true. - Because...
If you just run into a restaurant...
you may get disappointed easily.
I've done my research.
- Really? - I went with my French friend.
I will tell you a tip.
Bistro and gastronomy is combined...
to make a term called bistronomy.
Were you disappointed in any country during your travel, Sandara?
One of my favorite cities in the world is New York.
When I first went, I really looked forward to it.
Because I'd always see it in movies.
Also the hotels, like the one in "Home Alone" movie.
I expected big hotels such as that one.
But it was too cold and small.
- It had no refrigerator. - What?
Because good hotels were too expensive.
How much is the rate?
A good hotel in New York during the season.
Manhattan is an island with limited space.
So even if it's a regular hotel,
an average hotel,
would even cost about 500 dollars per night.
- 500 dollars? - Really?
If it's a good hotel,
it can cost over 700 dollars.
I see.
We've talked about ideals and reality.
That's the topic of the day.
Depending on what citizens and the country values...
the reality of that country is formed.
What are the ideal values each country seeks?
Swiss people...
value being neutral.
That's why...
- In reality? - They demand being more neutral?
That's why we haven't had a war...
for 500 years with other countries.
We also didn't join UN until 2002 either.
Well...
does that reflect in personal relationships as well?
Yes. It does.
Swiss people don't get involved in other people's business.
- None of my business. - They don't take sides.
Yes. It's none of my business.
I see.
France values freedom and equality.
They demand more of those values but we haven't achieved it yet.
They value living together.
It's important.
We've learned about noblesse oblige regarding France.
And tolerance.
French people...
- do not use the term noblesse oblige. - Really?
- They don't - Isn't that French?
It was used once by a French person.
But it was more attractive to Americans or British.
That's why...
the term got famous. But French people don't use that term.
Is French society a tolerant society?
It's similar to...
vivre ensemble.
Because it means to live together.
It means to tolerate the difference and live together.
Within the same society.
But these days, I think it's a lost value.
According to the constitution,
Italy is a democratic nation based on labor.
That's what it says in the Italian constitution.
After World War II,
when the country was poor, people worked hard.
But people these days...
don't value such labor as much.
They rather minimize labor.
They want to play more and work less.
That's the same everywhere.
A big problem in Germany...
with the younger generations is...
(Like Italy, Germany is also going through a crisis of values.)
A big problem in Germany with the younger generations is...
young people after they graduate high school,
have no goals and dreams.
They don't know what they want to do.
Like in Korea, they feel they must go to a good university.
It's becoming popular.
Originally in Germany,
- there's a meister system. - Yes, that's why they don't need to go to university.
There's no necessity in going to universities.
All you have to do is become a master at one thing.
Then you could succeed. That was the kind of country it was.
But there are only about 300 meister schools from 500.
They are disappearing.
Many parents don't want...
their children to become a meister...
because it doesn't look smart.
They think to become elite, they must go to universities.
Korea's trying to learn from the meister system.
- Yes. - But Germany is thinking otherwise.
Yes, that's unfortunate.
Younger generations have many ideas...
but they get frustrated when faced with reality.
It's called "N generation" and "dirt spoons".
Are there such terms in France? Like "dirt and gold spoons"?
Yes. We say silver spoon. - Silver spoon.
Born with a silver spoon in their mouth.
We use the spoon allegory in France, too.
- You say, they're born with it. - It's a proverb.
We use "golden spoon".
You use "golden spoon"?
It seems to be very universal.
How do you say it in Pakistani?
That's so long!
Why is it so long?
- Maybe their spoon is extra big. - It's long.
(That's so funny.)
We don't have a word like that in the US, but...
since my father's generation thought to...
value effort over achievement.
My parents were actually from Italy, too.
They didn't have anything, but...
my father started out as a garbageman.
But these days,
the starting point for everyone is so different.
There's some discrepancy with an unwarranted future.
So, the generation now,
are brought up with maximum confidence.
(You're so special, you can be whatever you want to be.)
They tell the kids, that they can be whatever they want.
They keep telling them, that they're special.
We have an expression, "Special Snowflake", to describe that.
But when these kids grow up...
and enroll in college.
If they're not pulling the grades,
the parents end up calling the school,
and question the teachers about not knowing the student's value.
What?
It's even hard getting a job, these days.
- The parents call the interviewer? - Why...
doesn't this company recognize how important my special snowflake is?
It's typical of today's generation.
We sometimes call them, boomerang kids.
They graduate and can't land a job,
or they just can't make a living for themselves.
So, they end up coming back home.
It seems like, knowing the difference between...
dreams and reality is difficult.
Recently, there are some efforts to minimize that.
What do the different nations implement to tackle this?
In Switzerland, we're developing a new lifestyle.
- It's getting pretty popular. - What is it?
It's going back to the days of Heidi.
You said, Heidi?
The Heidi from the children's stories?
Many people these days, especially the youth,
don't like having to work so hard.
They don't even agree with the sense of capitalism.
- They want to have fun. - So...
there are a lot of young people heading to the mountains.
It's increasing as we speak.
In America, we have standards for success.
We want a house with a grassy front yard.
We dream of having two kids and a puppy.
This is commonly accepted as success.
However, that's just too expensive for the lot of us.
So now, we've established a tiny house movement.
We have websites that specialize in designing smaller homes.
It's actually a fad, now.
I have a friend who made a house like that.
It's really small, so it was inexpensive.
It cost, maybe 5,000 dollars.
It's easy to maintain, too.
In Italy, we have a product-based society.
Naturally, our people want pretty things.
But the younger people these days, can't make money.
So, the people now,
are making things by their own hand.
- DIY? - Making their own shirts,
shoe brands,
and other things.
Also, out of these rising brands,
there was one, that even came to Korea.
They make shoes, it's called...
Golden Goose, do you know it?
- That's how it was. - They wanted to make their own shoes,
- because they were too expensive. - They're the most expensive now!
That's right.
What's happening, then?
It's because they're handmade!
I didn't know they were Italian.
We had two Mexican guys make something called KidZania.
- KidZania? - KidZania.
It's a place for children to go...
and experience jobs they'd want to do in the future.
They can actually make and spend money.
It's actually just like adults.
They can experience life, like that.
Actually, Mexico's security has some concerns.
It's not as safe as Korea.
So, it was a place for the kids to discover some lost security.
The creator wanted to deliver that feeling.
- That's actually popular here, in Korea, as well. - Right.
When I was doing radio, the kids from KidZania visited us.
Right, it's really popular.
The concept was a success...
in about 26 countries.
In Germany,
we don't have a great economy either, but...
to help students,
the country provides them, with loans.
Really?
On average, they can receive about 600 dollars.
After graduating, they only have to pay back 50 percent...
within five years.
- They only have to pay back half? - Just half.
- Amazing. - It was the country's strategy to help independent students.
Though tuition is already, largely free of charge,
the students still have living expenses.
But they don't have the time for part-time jobs.
- So, that's how the system came to be. - That's so great.
- That's just like getting an allowance from the country. - Right.
The country just gives them 300 dollars a month.
- Right. - Just for you to use.
Something that doesn't make sense, is what the Italian prime minister said.
He wanted to reduce the politicians' pay.
Our politicians have the highest pay in all of Europe.
The law was passed,
but it's said to start in 2018.
- After their terms are done? - Right!
That's what they're saying.
What's the point of that?
Someone would probably change the law again, later.
(The greedy politicians only care for themselves.)
In Switzerland,
the politicians don't really play politics or lay commitments.
Since we're a democracy,
we always end up leaving things up to voting.
But recently,
there were some dumb voting motions that have emerged.
For example, the Swiss farmers,
shave their cows' horns, for convenience.
But, many people think...
that, the horned cows are a symbol of tradition.
They're really against removing the horns.
They seem to have a lot of time in their hands!
They're so free from danger!
That's an issue for a school council.
- It's at "homeroom time", right? - So the Swiss...
think, that making it easy for us to...
alter the law through the will of the citizens,
is ideal.
But I don't understand why such dumb motions keep showing up.
So, did you guys decide on the horns?
There will be a chance to settle that, soon.
It hasn't been concluded.
The cows are probably really nervous.
"What are we going to do about this?"
They're probably anxious from watching the news.
In Switzerland,
if you get about 100,000 names, you can set a motion to vote.
- That's why it happened. - How many people do you have?
Right, that's also a problem.
Many think, that it's too easy to motion for a vote.
In the past, it was hard to gather a 100,000 names.
It was made when the population was rather low.
The number still remains the same.
- I didn't know that. - Let me ask you all,
what were the biggest differences between...
dreaming and living realistically for you?
what were the biggest differences between...
dreaming and living realistically for you?
When I was moving out...
of my parents' house,
I was shocked.
The dreams I had of being free,
- having no curfew, - Living freely.
living the way I want...
and having no rules. But...
all of sudden, I had all this laundry.
I didn't clean, so....
it was a nightmare to maintain.
- I didn't even know where my money went. - It keeps leaking.
It definitely wasn't easy.
It's dating, for me.
(What?)
- You thought you'd be good at it? - When I had a girlfriend,
I thought it'd last a long time.
- Did you get sick of her? - Yes,
- my feelings ended up fading away. - Really?
- You're so honest. - So, I thought I wasn't romantic.
There aren't many people who can admit that it faded.
I was actually disappointed with myself.
How many months was your longest?
It was six years.
- Six years? - That lasted a long time.
It faded really slowly, then.
I don't really say too many farewells.
That means, you lasted for six years.
So, it was really hard for me to prepare for the farewell.
The process took a while, then.
When I came to Korea as a kid,
there was a popular advertisement.
Some celebrities came out and said they were 20 years old.
- They were all 20-year-olds. - It's a piece by Lee Mun-kyeong.
I was a 20-year-old, too.
- So I was playing StarCraft, - It doesn't mean you can do everything.
I was a professional player for a popular game.
I was actually a popular player among them, too.
So, I really wanted to be in the advertisement.
It was a goal, but...
I never ended up shooting it, unfortunately.
You should just make a version for the 40s.
You shot one though!
For the hot water bath mat.
(Sad)
(Your dreams come true, by Guillaume Patry)
You're right.
Frankly, after the 2002 World Cup,
the general sentiment towards foreigners shifted.
I got here in 1996.
Then, foreigners and aliens meant the same thing.
- Right, it was interesting. - They were hard to approach.
Though it could be only be me, but...
I just always had things turn for the worse,
especially after I share where I'm from.
So, I got to thinking...
about studying twice as hard as others,
so it got me here. I'm inclined to believe,
that opportunities are much more abundant now.
Sandara, have you realized any of your fantasies in Korea?
Yes, I think I've achieved some.
I've always dreamed of being part of the YG Family Concert.
When I was on that stage for the first time,
with all of the senior members,
performing a collaborative concert,
it was all really memorable for me.
I was shell-shocked.
Actually, you're the fantasy for many people now.
- Right. - I agree.
You said, an "old bird", right?
The eight years flew by.
Now, to conclude the 110th Non Summit Meeting's issue,
I'm usually delving in unrealistic things, so I'm losing my grip on reality.
Am I abnormal?
On this issue,
a conclusion has been reached.
What's the verdict?
(Anticipating)
The conclusion has arrived!
(Printing out)
- The conclusion is here. - That paper is hot.
Sandara's issue...
should be left to the hands of her closest and realest friend, CL.
(CL will nag at her and give her a conclusion.)
(A clear-cut conclusion)
Was it fun for you?
Yes, I really wanted to be on the show.
Seeing all of you, from different countries...
and hearing so many fun stories, it was really enjoyable.
Do you think you can get back, your sense of reality?
- After being on our show? - I don't think people change that easily.
- Right, that's also one of your attractive points. - Thank you.
I would now like to adjourn our Non Summit Meeting.
Until the day we all become normal,
Let's all hope for Sandara's "Sugar Man 2"...
and we'll play some 90's music...
(You're so ideal)
(Just like that)
(Hey, why)
Thank you for your hard work.
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